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Bia Labate (Chacruna): Psychedelic Healing is Political

July 30, 2020

Bia Labate, Ph.D. is an anthropologist from Brazil with a focus on psychoactive substances, drug policies, shamanism, and religion.

Today I am speaking to Bia Labate, the Executive Director of Chacruna, a popular psychedelic website and research institution. She is the Public Education and Culture Specialist at MAPS, adjunct professor at the California Institute of Integral Studies (CIIS), and author of over 20 books.

On the show we discuss the mission of Chacruna--to give a voice and platform to people who have been traditionally excluded from the field of psychedelic science. We discuss how psychedelic therapists can become more engaged with the movement and give back to the community. We explore topics of social justice in the field and Bia’s own personal journey coming to California from Brazil. Finally, we highlight how psychedelics can be used for collective and how psychedelic healing is inherently political--from queering psychedelics--to Black Lives Matter.  

Bia is a huge proponent of including more diverse voices in the psychedelic community, especially of queer, women/non-binary, Latinx, and indigenous folks in these important and societal-shifting conversations.

Show notes



  • :05 - The goal of Chacruna is to give voice and platform to the people that have been traditionally excluded from the field of psychedelic science.
  • :15 - A PhD Anthropologist, Bia loves psychedelics because they are “mega cool.”
  • :21 - How should new psychedelic therapists acquaint themselves with the movement?
  • :25 - How can individual therapists give back to the psychedelic community?
  • :36 - How Bia’s understanding of social justice, and her own personal liberation came from moving to California from Brazil. 
  • :41 - Psychedelics are political, from queering psychedelics to Black Lives Matter
  • :54 - Psychedelic healing is collective healing
  • :59 - Bia speaks directly to psychedelic therapists
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