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Ismail Lourido Ali (MAPS): What Legislation in Colorado and Oregon Means for Psychedelic Practitioners

December 15, 2022

Oregon's Bills 109 and 110 and Colorado's Proposition 22 are big news for psychedelic therapists! But it's complicated.

Today on the show we are discussing the state of psychedelic legislation in the wake of Colorado’s Proposition 22 passing in November. Sharing the most relevant implications for psychedelic therapists and healers we have the best person for the job, MAPS Director of Policy and Advocacy Ismail Lourido Ali.

On the show we discuss legalization vs decriminalization. We look at the different tracks for psychedelic legalization from medicalization to religious exception to regulated adult use. We discuss Oregon’s Bills 109 and 110 exploring “scope of practice,” residency laws, and training reciprocity. We look at Colorado’s Proposition 22 and the two big differences between that and what was passed in Oregon two years ago. We discuss equity initiatives. Ismail shares what legalization efforts look like on the federal level and to close our conversation, he speaks directly to psychedelic healers.

As MAPS’ Director of Policy and Advocacy, Ismail advocates to eliminate barriers to psychedelic therapy and research, develops and implements legal and policy strategy, and supports MAPS’ governance, non-profit, and ethics work. Ismail earned his J.D. at the University of California, Berkeley School of Law in 2016, after receiving his bachelor’s in philosophy from California State University, Fresno. Ismail has previously worked for the ACLU of Northern California’s Criminal Justice & Drug Policy Project, and Berkeley Law’s International Human Rights Law Clinic. Ismail is licensed to practice law in the state of California, and is a founding board member of the Psychedelic Bar Association. Ismail is passionate about setting sustainable groundwork for a just, equitable, and generative post-prohibition world.

Show notes


  • :06 - Izzy’s role as Director of Policy and Advocacy for MAPS
  • :10 - Legalization vs decriminalization
  • :16 - Religious exception vs medicalization
  • :22 - Oregon’ regulated adult use system (Bill 109)
  • :28 “Scope of practice” and psilocybin facilitation licenses in Oregon.
  • :34 - Information for practitioners hoping to offer services in Oregon or Colorado including residency laws and training reciprocity
  • :40 - Two big differences in the recently passed Colorado’s Prop 22
  • :47 - Equity initiatives in Oregon and Colorado
  • :54 - What can we anticipate around federal legislation in psychedelics


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